[Docutils-develop] Out of date web pages

[Luke Plant]

Hello,

I'm trying to contribute to docutils, but having a bad time.

From the home page (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/ ) I got to this page:

http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/mailing-lists.html

It is full of dead links (e.g. Gmane's web interface, attempting to
search the archives on Gmane)

The README (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/README.html) similarly has
dead links to Gmane.

This means that the only way to see newsgroup activity that I can find
is to configure an NNTP mail reader, which I've now managed to do. Are
you aware that this represents a pretty major barrier to new people
contributing, compared to what people expect these days? Combined with
the fact that there are quite a few patches on
https://sourceforge.net/p/docutils/patches/ with no comment or review
years later, and the fact that you are still using SVN, I was pretty
much convinced that the project was dead, and that it would be nearly
impossible for me to work out how to submit a patch that would get
reviewed and merged. Having finally got access to the mailing list
archives, it seems the project is not dead, but just pretty hostile to
new contributors!

Regards,

Luke Plant

[engelbert gruber]

Am 09.06.2017 14:03 schrieb "Guenter Milde via Docutils-develop" <
docutils-***@lists.sourceforge.net>:

Dear Luke, dear Engelbert,

Post by Luke Plant
I'm trying to contribute to docutils, but having a bad time.

Sorry for this and thank you for reporting.

Post by Luke Plant
http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/mailing-lists.html
It is full of dead links (e.g. Gmane's web interface, attempting to
search the archives on Gmane)
The README (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/README.html) similarly has
dead links to Gmane.
This means that the only way to see newsgroup activity that I can find
is to configure an NNTP mail reader, which I've now managed to do. Are
you aware that this represents a pretty major barrier to new people
contributing, compared to what people expect these days?

The "Sourcforge project page" https://sourceforge.net/projects/docutils/
has an oversight of the mailing lists with links to subscription, archive
and search pages at https://sourceforge.net/p/docutils/mailman/
(you get there, e.g., by clicking "Mailing Lists" on the toolbar from the
"Ticket" tools).

I was not aware, that these pages do not feature in the current Docutils
documentation. In the repository there are now links to the Sourceforge
archives replacing the broken Gmane-links.

@Engelbert: could you please update the web site?


i will



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done

Post by engelbert gruber
Am 09.06.2017 14:03 schrieb "Guenter Milde via Docutils-develop" <
Dear Luke, dear Engelbert,

Post by Luke Plant
I'm trying to contribute to docutils, but having a bad time.

Sorry for this and thank you for reporting.

Post by Luke Plant
From the home page (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/ ) I got to this
http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/mailing-lists.html
It is full of dead links (e.g. Gmane's web interface, attempting to
search the archives on Gmane)
The README (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/README.html) similarly has
dead links to Gmane.
This means that the only way to see newsgroup activity that I can find
is to configure an NNTP mail reader, which I've now managed to do. Are
you aware that this represents a pretty major barrier to new people
contributing, compared to what people expect these days?

The "Sourcforge project page" https://sourceforge.net/projects/docutils/
has an oversight of the mailing lists with links to subscription, archive
and search pages at https://sourceforge.net/p/docutils/mailman/
(you get there, e.g., by clicking "Mailing Lists" on the toolbar from the
"Ticket" tools).
I was not aware, that these pages do not feature in the current Docutils
documentation. In the repository there are now links to the Sourceforge
archives replacing the broken Gmane-links.
@Engelbert: could you please update the web site?
i will
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[engelbert gruber]

On 10 June 2017 at 21:31, Guenter Milde via Docutils-develop <

done

Thank you.
Unfortunately, the acces to the mail list via Gmane NNTP is missing from
the
list of communication options.
Only the Gmane *web-interface* went down. Actually I write this message
over the gmane.news interface!

sorry i switch back to your edit